Author Topic: Bemanipalooza III  (Read 14213 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Gurt

  • Team Doorknob
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 3636
  • Rating: +13/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • LET'S GURT IT ON
    • Neon Pixel Nightmare
Bemanipalooza III
« on: February 26, 2011, 12:38:18 AM »
(this post intentionally left blank)

Offline Gurt

  • Team Doorknob
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 3636
  • Rating: +13/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • LET'S GURT IT ON
    • Neon Pixel Nightmare
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2011, 12:38:38 AM »
(reserved for future crap)

Offline Gurt

  • Team Doorknob
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 3636
  • Rating: +13/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • LET'S GURT IT ON
    • Neon Pixel Nightmare
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2011, 12:38:51 AM »
FIRST POST:

This is the official Bemanipalooza III thread.

Currently this event is in the very very early pre-planning stages.

All I can really tell you so far is that this is what is being looked at:
- Sydney, Feb '12
- Japan, date unknown

At the moment, this is being considered "and/or".  I'd like to hear opinions on both, and any third options (Adelaide, Perth, HK, Philippines, etc).  The advantages to each are pretty obvious but in a nutshell, Sydney is cheaper, Japan is more awesome.  I doubt everyone can budget for Japan, hence the "and/or".  If there's interest, we could do both - perhaps bump Sydney to August or so.

I'd be interested in suggestions for itineraries for both.  Assuming it's Fri-Sun again, let's assume there's a Friday night dinner, a Saturday night dinner, and Sunday arcading (a good time for off-CBD action).  For Japan, I'd be interested in anything - suggested durations included.  I'm also curious as to if Tokyo has to be our base of operations.  How many arcades are there in other cities?  (And for the females, are you concerned about perverts on trains?)
« Last Edit: February 26, 2011, 12:45:56 AM by Gurt »

Offline EBE@RTF

  • Team Leader - Australia
  • Administrator
  • Challenge Mode
  • ******
  • Posts: 2954
  • Rating: +14/-2
  • Gender: Male
  • Gigantic Ska Robot
    • Team RTF Australia
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2011, 10:44:54 AM »
The only tweak I would recommend for Friday night is dinner + non-arcade socialising/drinking. We were pretty bored with the city arcades by the time we got to Saturday night in Melbourne (although I assume this would be less of a problem in Japan), and it would be nice to have some sit-down social time. Late-night arcading will probably still happen regardless.

Input from people who've already travelled in Japan would be awesome at this stage. Luke? Might poke Tim and direct him here.

Tokyo seems the obvious choice, and it's close to Eddy, but I admit I don't know much about Japanese cities. Where's Hiroshi based these days? Where will An be? Where's Sho?

I'm really keen on a visit to Japan, and I think this is really the best way for many of us to visit another country - in a group of people we know. Expense does go up, which is why talking about it now is a good idea. But with a decent-sized group, we should be able to arrange group bookings for hotel and possibly flights (although that's less likely since we'd all be coming from different places).

If noone's keen for Japan, then I think Sydney would be the next best option AusBemani-wise. I haven't been there for a few years now, and we know plenty of people down there to meet/catch up with.
Team Ranking Task-Force
Part of Australia's DDR community since 1999

Offline Gurt

  • Team Doorknob
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 3636
  • Rating: +13/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • LET'S GURT IT ON
    • Neon Pixel Nightmare
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2011, 11:03:08 AM »
To be fair, that's because we went to the arcades before Friday night as well.

Offline SAN

  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 1431
  • Rating: +4/-7
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2011, 12:01:59 PM »
What would you like to know about traveling and the such in Japan? I can most likely help out.

Offline EBE@RTF

  • Team Leader - Australia
  • Administrator
  • Challenge Mode
  • ******
  • Posts: 2954
  • Rating: +14/-2
  • Gender: Male
  • Gigantic Ska Robot
    • Team RTF Australia
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 12:42:24 PM »
Which cities we should be looking at given the crowd and the types of things we're into (ie arcades), things to look out for. That sort of stuff.
Team Ranking Task-Force
Part of Australia's DDR community since 1999

Offline Gurt

  • Team Doorknob
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 3636
  • Rating: +13/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • LET'S GURT IT ON
    • Neon Pixel Nightmare
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 12:52:46 PM »
To be honest I've never traveled overseas before, so the whole thing will be learning.  Ultimately we're going to need suggestions for what to do when we get there.  As ebe said, group bookings will eliminate a lot of the hassle, perhaps even save us money.

I guess at the moment any little tidbits of information would be good, stuff we're not going to think of or find out ourselves perhaps?  We have a full year to think about it so I'm not worried - I guess things we need to do are:

10. Set a date at least 1 year from Bemanipalooza II (18th Feb), and decide on a duration.
20. Visas, passports.  What do individuals need to do?
30. Book hotel and flights well in advance - this means researching hotels, probably best to ask people who have done this before (no shortage there!).
40. Find information on what to do when we get there in general.  Again, research.  Or better yet, eavesdrop on others who are doing it.
50. Find vague information on what arcades there are - specifically the bigger, touristier arcades.  Sega World, Namco World, whatever.
60. The big dinners.  I doubt we can figure out where to eat in advance (or at least agree), but we should figure out what we want and which locality.
70. Who do we need to see while there?
80. Set a minimum budget so people know what it's going to cost minimum (i.e. Visa/Passport + flight + hotel + basic food + transport + various admissions).  But I think we all know that means $2000 at bare minimum...higher than that for sure, but I just have no idea exactly.  At least Japan isn't too far away, keeps flight costs down.
97.  Fill in the blanks.

I'm pretty sure if we actually commit to the Japanese idea, it'll sort itself out soon enough - even if you don't go (and you should go), Luke will most likely go, which means we're not going to be sitting there saying "WTF".  Also keep in mind Japan is close to HK, so Iori could make it I guess.

So yeah, if you have any additional suggestions to what we need to consider, I'll add them to this list.  I've put it in a way so I can add numbers later, and can add it to one of those 'reserved' posts if deemed necessary...but basically...well, you get the idea.

If you're seriously considering going, save ASAP.  Wish I could, but I can't - car rego coming up, just paid stamp duty on my car, have to pay service in my car, have another $800 bill coming up, HDD dying and needs replacing...I'll catch up for sure, but right now I'm in "consolidate debts" mode.  But, as a suggestion, we could set the Japan trip for say, March 2012 or even later, and have the Sydney trip as well, but earlier, and shorter.  Flights to Syd are cheap, and with a bit of cunning we could probably set the Japanese trip to an off-season (ie not March?) with the Syd trip to offset the amount of time we have to wait - eg, have Sydney in October or something.

Offline EBE@RTF

  • Team Leader - Australia
  • Administrator
  • Challenge Mode
  • ******
  • Posts: 2954
  • Rating: +14/-2
  • Gender: Male
  • Gigantic Ska Robot
    • Team RTF Australia
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 01:04:26 PM »
Iori commented on one of my FB updates to say he'd heard Japan was being considered and thought he could make it, so yeah, that's def possible.

Team Ranking Task-Force
Part of Australia's DDR community since 1999

Offline Ghostling

  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 593
  • Rating: +2/-0
  • "I'm worse than evil. I'm the author."
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 02:11:12 PM »
Highly recommend a crash course in conversational Japanese as well; we'll have the time and it'll make dealing with arcade scenes much easier.
'A single woman will meet 6000 men in her life. 2/3 of these will be too old or too young. Of those remaining, 39% will be married, 18% gay, 11% have unacceptable haircuts, 3% will be overcompensating, and 17% will just be tools.' - Add

Offline ChinoZaki

  • STATE CHAMPION
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 1656
  • Rating: +11/-6
  • Gender: Male
  • STATE SLAKE CHAMPION
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 04:00:11 PM »
Will probably head out to HK at the end of this year.
NO TO BRIGHT ARE WE NOW,
WELL WELL WELL WELL THEN !!!!! - Mr. Funhaus, trolled.

STATE CHAMPION

State Champion - Carlos

Offline moose!

  • Get a clue, moron
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 1786
  • Rating: +15/-1
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 05:18:49 PM »
We could do off season for japan...I'm not sure when that is. Definitely needs to be next year though.

If we want to consider Japan, we might need a deadline for that decision. So we can start planning and saving.

Waiting on people who have been to Japan to provide more insight.
i lol'd
go sex up a tree

Offline Gurt

  • Team Doorknob
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 3636
  • Rating: +13/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • LET'S GURT IT ON
    • Neon Pixel Nightmare
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2011, 11:15:44 AM »
I don't know if you need a crash course, but learning all the katakana is definitely worth it.  Takes maybe two hours and then you can read signs, and they're often just English!  Plus you don't need a course for it, you can just Google for it.  Find a list of the characters and write them out several times, if you have trouble remembering them associate them with something (eg 'ri' looks like two reeds, 'ka' looks like a lego brick with a katana through it, that sort of stuff).  Then it's easy, you just read backs of arcade cabinets and stuff until it becomes natural.

Hiragana is slightly tougher - the characters are a bit more abstract and of course, they almost never are just an English word in a Japanese script (and it's baffling when it is).  It'll be tougher to absorb.

Kanji, man, do I need to say it?  Actually, I'm sure it's worth learning some, but don't ask me which.  But if you play enough games you'll be able to read random words like "dai", "jin", "kawa", etc..."jin" is something you're going to see fairly often if you know it (especially in arcades!) and "kawa" is on heaps of place names as it means river IIRC.  Man, just be scrappy for starters.  Get a bit of enthusiasm before you jump into the deep end.  Learning languages is a PITA.

...I'm all for the Japanese trip, but like I said, we should think hard about when do we want to go.  Do we want to go for the whole sakura festival thingy?  Or off-season?  Winter or summer?  If we go in winter, will we want to see snow?

My opinion beyond that is, figure out Japan first, THEN see if Sydney is plausible.  If we make it tiny, we can slot it in with about three months' notice.  But I think we will need to, just to be fair to people who can't afford Japan.  (I'm not sure how I'll be able to afford it yet - I think it's possible though!)

Offline ZDMKylie

  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 816
  • Rating: +10/-0
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2011, 11:25:41 AM »
Re: Japanese language, katakana spells out foreign words, kanji characters represent Japanese words/meanings, and hiragana is for everything else (grammar particles, and Japanese words which don't have kanji)

Katakana will allow you to read English words. For the most part however, especially if you're in Tokyo, you'll be able to get around with minimal Japanese knowledge. It's just the further out you go, the more likely the signs won't cater to the English speaking demographic and the more likely you'll need to know at least some Japanese.

Anyway if you have someone in the group who knows a bit and you stay in a group, that will usually suffice.

Re: Japan. Great country to visit. Little bit expensive but I daresay it would be worth it. Tokyo would have the most stuff so if you're going to holiday anywhere for this purpose I would say Tokyo is the best bet, particularly places like Akihabara. Keep an open mind and try the raw fish :P

If you have any more specific questions, just ask. They might be easier to answer.

I must say planning a Bemanipalooza overseas sounds like a nightmare logistically but if there's a will there's a way. For me personally, KPMG is going to be really intense, and with Kevin coming over in April I might for practical reasons be restricted to weekend trips within Australia only. But that's just me. So I'd probably have to bow out of such an event, as much fun as it sounds.

Offline SAN

  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 1431
  • Rating: +4/-7
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2011, 02:51:52 PM »
-information overload-

I can try and answer any specific questions - I'm in a bit of a rush now, but I'll try and make a better post tomorrow or so.

Offline EBE@RTF

  • Team Leader - Australia
  • Administrator
  • Challenge Mode
  • ******
  • Posts: 2954
  • Rating: +14/-2
  • Gender: Male
  • Gigantic Ska Robot
    • Team RTF Australia
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2011, 03:41:33 PM »
No rush, Lachlan. Whatever people can contribute will be helpful.

Thanks for your input too, Kylie. When I went looking for hotel info in Tokyo, the site asked me which region I wanted. Any suggestions on which we should consider/avoid?

As I said on MSN (to Kylie just now), I would imagine any plan for Japan would need to be finalised with names committed a solid 6 months before the event. If we get to that point, and the plan isn't working, 6 months is still plenty of time to plan a domestic holiday.

I'm happy to move BPL from Feb, but it's worked well for us so far. If there's no serious reason why we should avoid Feb in Japan, we might as well stick with it. When is the off-season? Going then would help us save, and the things we do with our time aren't really seasonal.

Seeing snow again would be pretty awesome, but a proper ski trip would be a massive additional expense. A day trip to a snowy region might be cool, but anything more than that would be prohibitive for most, I would think. Ski gear on it's own is a pain to deal with.

I have a friend at work who used to be a travel agent. Might chat to him, see if he has any tips on who we can talk to.
Team Ranking Task-Force
Part of Australia's DDR community since 1999

Offline Snackx

  • SLAKE CHAMPION
  • RTF Team Member
  • Advanced
  • *****
  • Posts: 96
  • Rating: +2/-0
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #16 on: February 28, 2011, 11:36:37 AM »
I don't think I could manage to save for a Japan trip for 2012 even if I started now.

Study is too important for me to consider taking up work to save for something big.
I was in a pretty good fiscal position until my car died a week before BPL II :(

Sydney sounds like a good idea, change things up a bit and Sydney has the best hotdog stand IN THE WORLD!!!!!!
:D

Offline Gurt

  • Team Doorknob
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 3636
  • Rating: +13/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • LET'S GURT IT ON
    • Neon Pixel Nightmare
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2011, 05:07:37 PM »
There was some discussion last night about and while we all want to do it, 2012 isn't looking too good for anyone. For Japan, I mean.

Again though, many Asian countries have better arcades than ours and are much cheaper than Japan. And we could aim to do it in 2013 instead!

Offline moose!

  • Get a clue, moron
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 1786
  • Rating: +15/-1
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #18 on: March 01, 2011, 08:33:24 AM »
financially i do think a few key people would struggle trying to gather the funds for this trip, even for a year.

maybe concentrate on a domestic location? we could still have a group focus, rather than plan individually. theres less to think about as well
i lol'd
go sex up a tree

Offline SAN

  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 1431
  • Rating: +4/-7
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #19 on: March 01, 2011, 08:07:26 PM »
Sydney.


Offline ChinoZaki

  • STATE CHAMPION
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 1656
  • Rating: +11/-6
  • Gender: Male
  • STATE SLAKE CHAMPION
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2011, 08:09:43 PM »
A true test of survival would be to live on the streets of Browns Plains for a week.
NO TO BRIGHT ARE WE NOW,
WELL WELL WELL WELL THEN !!!!! - Mr. Funhaus, trolled.

STATE CHAMPION

State Champion - Carlos

Offline Snackx

  • SLAKE CHAMPION
  • RTF Team Member
  • Advanced
  • *****
  • Posts: 96
  • Rating: +2/-0
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2011, 08:36:42 PM »
A true test of survival would be to live on the streets of Browns Plains for a week.

how the f*** do you like a post on a forum, because this deserves that feature

Offline Gurt

  • Team Doorknob
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 3636
  • Rating: +13/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • LET'S GURT IT ON
    • Neon Pixel Nightmare
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #22 on: March 02, 2011, 02:43:19 AM »
+1 Browns Plains

But seriously, nobody else has really said much, but let's just say Sydney, unless we suddenly get hyped for somewhere else.  I mean, if the turnout is better than this year's, we'll have more fun, right?  Strength in numbers, or something.  No point doing somewhere weird if nobody wants to go to it, and we get a smeg turnout.

And like I said, people like the Japan idea but we're all poor, so why fight it?  Put it off to another year.  If we're still interested it'll only make us appreciate it better.  Apparently.

Offline ZDMKylie

  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 816
  • Rating: +10/-0
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #23 on: March 02, 2011, 06:24:45 AM »
A true test of survival would be to live on the streets of Browns Plains for a week.

how the f*** do you like a post on a forum, because this deserves that feature

Best you can do is use the "Perfect/Miss" feature on the side of the post :P

Sydney would be preferable to Japan for me personally, easier to get to, less time to travel... etc etc.
Although would we consider other cities as well, such as Adelaide or Perth?

(and weren't we supposed to have one in Brisbane at one stage?)

Offline moose!

  • Get a clue, moron
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 1786
  • Rating: +15/-1
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2011, 07:56:43 AM »
perfect/miss is for the person, not the post. sadly :P

sydney seems to be a good general consensus here. its close, hell some of us could drive if we wanted to (ONLY if we wanted to :P) accommodation would need to be looked at. basically the same process we had to do the first time we went down to melbourne. i personally have stayed at a few places but those were specifically chosen for locations closer to outside of the city.

granted this is still (way way way) up for discussion. other options are always there and if people think that another city is the way to go then lets hear it

as for the one in brisbane, we were sort of thinking of doing a 2.5 if/when peach comes up to brisbane :D
i lol'd
go sex up a tree

Offline Snackx

  • SLAKE CHAMPION
  • RTF Team Member
  • Advanced
  • *****
  • Posts: 96
  • Rating: +2/-0
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2011, 10:22:54 AM »
perfect/miss is for the person, not the post. sadly :P

sydney seems to be a good general consensus here. its close, hell some of us could drive if we wanted to (ONLY if we wanted to :P) accommodation would need to be looked at. basically the same process we had to do the first time we went down to melbourne. i personally have stayed at a few places but those were specifically chosen for locations closer to outside of the city.

granted this is still (way way way) up for discussion. other options are always there and if people think that another city is the way to go then lets hear it

as for the one in brisbane, we were sort of thinking of doing a 2.5 if/when peach comes up to brisbane :D

Yeah, I wanna like the post, not Carlos himself, that could cause like worldwide destruction or something!

I stayed in a really good + cheap place in Sydney last time I was there in 2008. I will dig up through my receipts and find the name of it. I could have easily fit 4 people in this room I was staying in (and did a couple of big nights there :P). AND THE BEST PART, I WAS 5 MINUTE WALK FROM THAT REALLY AWESOME HOTDOG STAND THAT IS OPEN 24/7. 3AM HOTDOGS FTW

Offline Gurt

  • Team Doorknob
  • RTF Team Member
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 3636
  • Rating: +13/-0
  • Gender: Male
  • LET'S GURT IT ON
    • Neon Pixel Nightmare
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2011, 11:03:56 AM »
I stayed at Carrington Apartments once, next to Wynyard station in the CBD. Cheap I think, and it was opposite Krispy Creme...but this was 2005.

Offline ChinoZaki

  • STATE CHAMPION
  • Challenge Mode
  • *****
  • Posts: 1656
  • Rating: +11/-6
  • Gender: Male
  • STATE SLAKE CHAMPION
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2011, 11:31:21 AM »
fraken wah smegz.
NO TO BRIGHT ARE WE NOW,
WELL WELL WELL WELL THEN !!!!! - Mr. Funhaus, trolled.

STATE CHAMPION

State Champion - Carlos

Offline Snackx

  • SLAKE CHAMPION
  • RTF Team Member
  • Advanced
  • *****
  • Posts: 96
  • Rating: +2/-0
  • Gender: Male
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2011, 02:39:30 PM »
fraken wah smegz.

didn't think you liked 3rd mix korean bra

Offline EBE@RTF

  • Team Leader - Australia
  • Administrator
  • Challenge Mode
  • ******
  • Posts: 2954
  • Rating: +14/-2
  • Gender: Male
  • Gigantic Ska Robot
    • Team RTF Australia
Re: Bemanipalooza III
« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2011, 03:41:12 PM »
fraken wah smegz.

didn't think you liked 3rd mix korean bra

Dammit, now I want a like function.
Team Ranking Task-Force
Part of Australia's DDR community since 1999